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1. Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people » Blog Archive » Asian room raider?! on 16 Jan 2006 at 6:49 pm

   [...] Carmen and I have talked on Addicted to Race about the fact that there are hardly any Asian guys in reality TV out there (of course going back to the fact that very rarely are Asian males sexualized or valued in mainstream media). Well, here is one of the only ones that I have seen! I couldn’t believe that he (Jon) was on it in the first place – usually the guys they have on the show are either jocks or players of some sort. But here was this average Asian guy! The girls whom he had to choose from were white and Asian (2 white girls, one Asian). And it was nice to see that they were really into him – in the beginning (as usually happens in this show), when the 3 contestants see the video of who will be searching their rooms, they were groaning and moaning about how cute he was. Surprising, yet nice to see an Asian brother out there! I guess we know that there is progress when we can all be on such horrendous and superficial MTV reality shows, huh? [...]

2. TheThink on 29 May 2006 at 2:12 am

   [...] Back in January my buddies over at Addicted to Race interviewed Sheridan Prasso, author of The Asian Mystique: Dragon Ladies, Geisha Girls, & Our Fantasies of the Exotic Orient, a book (more or less) about how people in the “West” completely distort both males and females from the “East”. You know how it goes: Asian women are sexual goldmines and Asian men are sexless felines. But, I must add, it’s not just ‘us’ in the West doing it to the East. There’s a lot of intra-Asian stereotyping going on as well, which I have noted before. [...]

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4. Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people on 04 Aug 2006 at 7:35 am

   [...] Carmen’s rant in episode 12 about the stupid stereotypes about Asian men and women propagated by the media [...]

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   [...] Carmen’s rant in episode 12 about the stupid stereotypes about Asian men and women propagated by the media [...]

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Comments

1. Didi wrote:

   Dear Carmen and Jen,

   Thanks for addressing the whole “for Black, by Blacks” cop out. I’m a black woman and I hate hearing that dismissal of white people or other people of colors’ perceptions about race. It’s also a way for black men to dismiss many black women’s observations about racism and sexism within the black community. So I’m glad you challenged those responses from your Boondocks review. Oh and thanks for reading my email on your podcast!

   Love the show,
   Didi

   Posted 10 Jan 2006 at 12:46 pm ¶

2. Tony wrote:

   Hey, sorry I don’t have time to write a long reply, but I just wanted to say, once again, I love your show!! I was feeling kinda down this past week, having been sick and so on, and listening to your show really picked me up. Thanks!

   Posted 10 Jan 2006 at 1:51 pm ¶

3. dana wrote:

   Once again, thanks for a fantastic episode!
   Regarding the rant on Asian stereotypes and the portrayal of Asian and Asian-Americans in the media and the idea that Asians are not able to save themselves… and therefore have to be saved by a white person or a black person as seen in the movie “Crash” goes back to the overlying idea that people of Asian ethnicity in the United States have been and still are considered foreigners. Until this issue is resolved, I think we are going to continue seeing the same stories over and over in the media…
   Also, another question, totally unrelated regarding the portrayal of mixed people in the media… carmen, perhaps you might have seen this article because you were living in asia for a while (sorry i don’t know when you moved to nyc from hk)… when i was living in japan i subscribed to time magazine (they put out a different publication in various locations around the world hence why i can’t find it here). this was a few years ago and because i am back in the united states, i am unable to find the article/magazine. anyway, the article which was featured was titled something along the lines of “all mixed up” and discussed a variety of women who were half-asian half-white who were making it big with their “exotic” looks. the cover was a picture of all of these famous women scantily dressed yada yada yada… i don’t really have to describe it to you, i’m sure you can imagine. anyway, it took an article that COULD have had purpose by discussing the success of mixed people in the media and/or the growing mixed population and instead objectified these women and continued to perpetuate the idea of people of mixed heritage being “mixed up” or confused… sorry i had to rant!
   thanks again for all your excellent work!

   Posted 11 Jan 2006 at 8:44 pm ¶

4. dana wrote:

   sorry… here’s a link to archive for TIMEAsia where they’ve got the article “All Mixed Up” the Eurasian Invasion… nice huh?
   http://www.time.com/time/asia/archive/0,9790,2001,00.html

   Posted 11 Jan 2006 at 8:50 pm ¶

5. dana wrote:

   hi again…
   ok, big apologies r/ the article i referenced before in TIMEAsia. ok, the cover and the title were awful, but the material actually addressed some interesting points. however, i initially was unable to get past the cover and the title to read the article… precisely the problem.
   anyway, for what it’s worth, here’s a link to the actual article:
   http://www.time.com/time/asia/news/magazine/0,9754,106427,00.html

   thanks once again for addressing so many important issues… without getting too serious! while you have commented that in earlier issues you guys giggled too much, i appreciate the laughter. when dealing with such important issues many of us can get tense and angry. it’s important to remember not to always take life too seriously!

   Posted 12 Jan 2006 at 1:38 am ¶

6. James wrote:

   Great podcast on Asian stereotypes, and great website (I’m a first time visitor). It’s funny, that you guys talked about the absence of Asian guys in MTV reality shows. Just over the weekend, I saw two (YES 2!) episodes of “Room Raiders” where an Asian guy got to choose a woman for a date based on her apartment. The first episode showed a Korean American guy, but the second episode was interesting, because it involved a Vietnamese guy, who ended up choosing an Indian woman (the other two were white). His reasoning for choosing her was that she was in touch with her heritage, and that was important to him. I thought that was cool.

   But guess what? That same day, I saw an episode of “Next” where an Asian guy got to choose amongst 5 women. He ended up choosing a blonde girl from UC Irvine, who said she dated Asian guys almost exclusively.

   Wow! I never thought I would see the day. Anyway, great website and keep up the podcasts.

   Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 11:55 pm ¶

7. Joshua Xanadu wrote:

   Keep up the good work. I’m an Asian American male who throughout his childhood was so frustrated by being defined by the society out there. Of course, before you say that we shouldn’t let others define us, please realize that as young teenagers, most if not all people are strongly influenced by our media and peer influences.

   Anyways, I’m glad people in Asian America are still working hard on dispelling stereotypes to the advantage of folks like me. Now I’ve long forgone any imposed stereotypes, as since college I’ve forged my own identity from experiences living in Asia. I wonder what how you transitioned from living there back to the US? As for me, I’ve long since given up caring about the state of Asian Americans in the US, possibly because it WAS so frustrating as a child. I probably identify myself as Chinese to my white peers, since my theory is that for most Americans to accept our ethnicity, they must respect and accept our cultural heritage first. So when they identify Asians as strong, independent or ‘normal’, they can then move to accept Asian Americans as such. That’s my theory.

   What I disdain, thus, is Asian Americans who attempt to gain acceptance by mentally distancing themselves from ‘Asians’, using the derogatory ‘FOBs’ as a safe barrier to divide the line between an acceptable identity.

   Enough of my rants. I just wanted to let you gals know that you are pretty relaxing, articulate, personable and talented.

   Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 11:02 pm ¶

8. Joshua Xanadu wrote:

   One other thing in reference to your comments on ‘Deuce Bigelow’, I just want to talk about the penis issue. It seems the common Asian American response is that those stereotypes are stupid and demeaning. Nowhere do people actually take on the stereotypes directly.

   I don’t want to dwell on this issue, but I’ll just post it here once and for all just to put this issue to bed, no pun intended.

   On average, Asian men have slightly smaller penises than whites, who are smaller (on average) than blacks. What does that mean? That means the differences between average Asians and whites are about .5 inches.

   BUT… This is the new information you all don’t understand, in which few if any studies have been done (of course, these studies just aren’t done). Asians in general have the hardest erections, which implies a more intense blood flow. Blacks on average have less hard erections. In your own discoveries, I’m willing to bet that hardness has as much impact on sexual gratification as a marginal difference in size.

   So what does that mean? It means God apparently balanced out the world. Yes, in terms of penis quality, we’re all equal. Of course, there are a lot of variations within each race, but since we want to just state averages, here it is. Just relax, guys. Nothing separates the races.

   Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 11:19 pm ¶

9. Hung Up wrote:

   “That means the differences between average Asians and whites are about .5 inches.”

   Well, not sure where you pulled that out of, but my guess would be closer to about 1/4″.

   Keep in mind though that Asians now drink a lot of soy – which in underprocessed forms contains a lot of potent phytoestrogens which can demasculinize and stunt penis growth. Were diets equalized, any statistical differences might disappear.

   Well, 1/2″ or 1/4″, point is when they joke about 2″ penii – the racism is in the ridiculous exaggeration. Many Americans actually believe that Asians average 3″ or 4″ cocks due to such racist hyperbolizations!

   BTW, I am Asian and closer to 7″, with a rock-hard woody that stands almost straight up (a rare trait amongst non-Asians). In fact, my White ex thought it was unusual that it stood straight up – little did she know that that is actually a sign of a harder, superior erection unseen amongst most men. And I attribute this to the application of ancient Chinese health theories..

   Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 12:11 am ¶

10. mr man wrote:

    Ok you guys are going waaay too overboard with this penis size/hardness deal don’t you think?The size or stiffness, doesn’t make men any more or less manly lol……

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 11:45 pm ¶

11. joshua xanadu wrote:

    Of course not. Being a man requires a myriad of attributes. I just don’t think constantly saying “size/hardness doesn’t matter” has not helped dispell stereotypes.

    The difference is between saying:
    1. “Stereotypes don’t matter” (when they clearly do)
    2. “This stereotype is inaccurate, if not plain wrong.”

    Anyways, I didn’t want to dwell on this issues; just wanted to reiterated my point.

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 2:48 am ¶

12. mr man wrote:

    It may not dispell stereotypes,but I honestly think it does not matter in the long run.I’m not making light of asian male stereotypes, especially some of the points you made above.It’s just when I hear of things like “superior erection” or hardness, and what race has the most of what,you kind of lost me and the topic became less serious, at least to me…

    Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 11:30 am ¶

13. Toya wrote:

    Hey Jen & Carmen,

    I am playing catch up with ATR (just bought my tee-shirt!) and I had to pause my podcast and write about the excellent coverage you are providing on Asians in the media. I am an African-American female, but I have watched with interest the struggle for identity and media representation that other ethnic groups fight for.

    As much as I love Better Luck Tomorrow, I would like to share with your readers one of my favorite shows, “Popcorn Zen.” It is currently being shown on the AZN network (though comcast may or may not yank the network). The show features short films by Asians and South Asians. I enjoy watching it because the films do not claim to represent Asian culture – even though many of the films feature issues of Asian identity and have Asian casts. What intrigues me the most is watching the portrayal of other minorities and their interactions with Asian culture.

    I blogged a bit about it:

    kaida.easyjournal.com

    The entry is called “Julani, help!”

    If you care to read more, feel free to visit.

    Your show continually challenges my thought process, and I appreciate your efforts to bring consciousness to the masses!

    Posted 23 Jan 2006 at 4:53 pm ¶

14. kay wrote:

    im tired of people looking down on asian men and the stupid stereotypes that people use for basically anyone. my friend was shocked when i said i was dating an asian guy and she was like, honey, i heard asian guys have small blahblah and also that they are not good at sex. i was pissed about her remark because my man is good in bed and he keeps me happy and he is more open about his feelings than i am. i just wish that people would stop looking at asian men as weak because they are not and they are just as strong as any other man.

    Posted 24 Dec 2006 at 12:45 pm ¶

15. Rebecca Yu wrote:

    This comment has been deleted by the moderator. Please do not create multiple identities/personalities for yourself. If you have something to say, pick one identity and stick with it please.

    Posted 02 Jan 2007 at 3:33 pm ¶

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